Sleep is Surgery
Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
The hags emerge from Thanksgiving, bubbling over with conversations to be had. Kate enjoys the non-hierarchical airline while Jacqueline holds onto the menu at an airport lounge. A company covering your ass is a friend for life. The preferred form of satire? Absolute realism. An unlabeled jar, unmistakably daughter-made. A lifetime of preemptively bracing for every possible misinterpretation. A phone returned, sour tangs, unctuous rigatoni. Is a big meal pre-slumber the obstacle or the remedy?
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| 0:00.0 | For those of you listening for free, we love you. Thank you. But imagine uping to dear friend |
| 0:04.7 | or giving yourself a gift or a friend a gift. With dear friend, you're going to get ad-free |
| 0:09.3 | episodes every week. Imagine that not being interrupted by ads. You're going to get an extra episode, |
| 0:15.9 | which will drop into your feed. Often a full video-length version is also available. And don't forget, |
| 0:21.0 | Product Corner, access to Product Corner, where we are dropping huge recommendations. |
| 0:26.3 | We're going personal. A lot happens behind Product Corner. You're also going to get AMAs. |
| 0:30.9 | You're going to be able to email your questions, hear other hags and their questions, |
| 0:34.8 | hear answers. There's also going to be fun little extras. You're going to get videos, images, peeks into our texts, lots of stuff. |
| 0:42.5 | It's a recipe, a link. |
| 0:43.8 | And you get 20% off merch. |
| 0:46.2 | $10 a month, that's $100 a year that you could get it for. |
| 0:50.7 | And listen, $10 a month, I understand. |
| 0:53.1 | That ain't nothing. But you'll also |
| 0:55.6 | sleep well at night knowing that you are supporting the show, that you're making the show, |
| 0:59.5 | get made. Two best friends, both alike in dignity, nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. |
| 1:06.3 | The hag divines when something must die. Yes, that was Pug. But this is huge. |
| 1:11.4 | The ego loves to seek, but never to find. |
| 1:14.2 | It was Berlant and Novak the whole time. |
| 1:18.9 | What's the matter with you, Cosette? |
| 1:21.2 | Have you been too much on your own? |
| 1:23.5 | I had a huge lay-mise week last week. |
| 1:27.0 | Never seen it? |
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