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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Plus Bonus: Carson v Makin

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2022

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary


Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern react to the Supreme Court’s decision in Carson v Makin, a blockbuster religious liberty case that sees the court traveling a long way in a short time, and trampling the establishment clause along the way, 


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0:00.0

Hi, I'm this is Amicus, Slate's podcast about the Supreme Court and the Law, and I am

0:14.1

Dahlia Lithwick.

0:15.1

I host this podcast, and I cover some of those things for Slate, and I wanted to let you

0:20.0

know about a bonus segment we're releasing to our Slate Plus members as we process a

0:25.4

really blockbuster opinion from the Supreme Court in a religious liberty case that honestly

0:31.4

any other June in any other year would have been reverberating for weeks.

0:36.9

But this is not any other June, and we have a whole bunch of blockbuster cases that are

0:42.2

coming up, so we wanted to jump on this one and get you a little bit of clarity and context

0:48.6

about today's decision in Carson vs. Make-In.

0:52.8

Here is a brief snippet of my conversation with Slate's own Mark Joseph Stern.

0:58.4

This is another one of those Sonya Sotomayor Descent's mark, where she pretty explicitly

1:03.8

doesn't just dissent from the opinion that she've just disrobed rights, but she issues

1:10.6

another warning, both about how fast the court is changing the legal landscape, and also

1:17.4

she sort of warns about what's to come.

1:19.6

Yeah, and this goes back to what I was saying earlier about the parade of Horrible's

1:23.2

The Brire mentions, which I think is spot on, and really kind of leads the reader to question

1:30.3

Robert Scander in his majority opinion.

1:32.8

Like, you can't just pretend that this is the end of the road for this campaign when

1:38.1

there have been so many previous decisions where the majority has pretended like they've

1:42.1

pushed things as far as they're going to go, and then just push further and further.

1:45.4

And Sotomayor is saying quite correctly that the court has essentially repealed the establishment

1:51.1

clause.

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