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The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hello and welcome to the public exposure edition of Slate Money,

your guide to the business and finance news of the week.

I'm Felix Salmon of Fusion and I am joined as ever by the one and only.

Kathy O'Neill, the blogger at MathBabe.org.

Hello, Felix. That was me cheering for myself.

And you should. Everyone should cheer for Kathy O'Neill, even Kathy O'Neill, especially Kathy O'Neill. And we also have Kathy O'Neill's biggest cheerleader, Jordan Weissman, the Moneybox columnist here at Slate.

I am your cheerleader, Kathy. Just like the number one song. Actually, is it still the number one song in America right now, cheerleader? No, it might not be. I don't know.

It might have been replaced by Can't Feel My Face.

So you wrote that for me, that's what you're saying?

Yes.

Thank you.

I was the ghostwriter.

I had you in mine the whole time. Very sweet. I had that idea. Yeah. And, yeah, we're not saying that you remind us of songs called I Can't Feel My Face, but... Although, I don't know, given the hangover you're talking about before, maybe, anyway.

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