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Slate Money Criminals: TheraNOPE

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News Commentary, Politics, News

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

 In this episode of the Criminals series, the gang talks with Rebecca Jarvis, host of “The Dropout” about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. Who were the real victims of Holmes’ crimes? How did her lofty goals drift into scandal? And where does she sit on a scale of “one to evil”?

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Elizabeth Holmes episode of Slate Money Criminals.

0:20.2

I'm Felix Amon of Axios, I'm here with Elizabeth Spires of New York Times and Slate from

0:26.8

other places.

0:27.8

Hello.

0:28.8

I'm here with Emily Peck of Axios.

0:31.6

Hello, hello.

0:33.4

And to talk about us with Holmes, the woman who did an entire podcast on her, Rebecca

0:38.8

Jarvis, Rebecca Welcombe.

0:41.6

Thank you.

0:42.6

Great to be here with you guys.

0:44.2

Introduce yourself and plug your podcast.

0:46.8

So I'm the hosting creator of the Dropout podcast, chronicling the rise in follow of Elizabeth

0:51.8

Holmes.

0:52.8

And we have two seasons.

0:54.1

The first one goes over the story and the second follows the entire trial real time.

1:00.1

So you'll hear everything that went down in the courtroom.

1:03.6

We are going to try and answer the question of how bad of a criminal was Elizabeth Holmes.

1:10.6

What did she do that was bad?

1:12.4

Did she get her just desserts?

1:14.0

We're going to talk about who the victims were, what was going through her head, what was

1:19.6

going on with her co-conspirator, Sonny Bellwani.

1:24.4

And at the end, we're going to try and play through on the scale of like one to made

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