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🗓️ 19 March 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

For this edition of Money Talks, Felix Salmon chats with Jay Newman, the former hedge fund manager who helped Elliot Management recover $2.4 billion from Argentina after that country defaulted on its loans. Jay shares his philosophy on sovereign debt and recounts a 16-year battle full of judicial intrigue.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to money talks from Slate Money.

0:16.0

I'm Felix Salmon of Axios and this week I am going to nerd out on my single favorite subject in the entire

0:26.1

history of finance, which is not just sovereign debt restructuring, but Argentine

0:32.1

sovereign debt restructuring.

0:33.9

This is going to be a historic conversation.'m sure about this is going to be absolutely

0:40.4

amazing here at slate money we receive a lot of books and we read a lot of books and we talk to

0:45.6

a lot of authors and in this case I received a book from a chap named Greg Maycoff all about

0:51.1

the court fight over the Argentine debt restructuring that began, I guess, in

0:55.6

mid-2000s. And it was a great book, and I blubed it, and it's out, and you should go read it.

1:00.0

It's called Default by Greg Maycoff. And the person I am talking to about this book is not.

1:05.5

Instead, I am talking to Jay Newman. Jay, welcome.

1:14.4

Felix, I'm extremely excited to be here. If you've heard about this case at all, you've probably heard it referred to as Elliott versus Argentina.

1:20.2

And Jay basically is Elliott for these purposes. Jay was working for Elliot. Jay represented

1:26.6

Elliot. Jay was the person who

1:27.8

came up with the whole strategy. So we're going to talk about this big fight between Jay Newman

1:33.3

and the country of Argentina. And this is like Jay, who's one guy on this show versus an entire

1:39.2

sovereign nation, he, spoiler alert, winds up winning the fight to get paid back on the bonds that Argentina issued and then defaulted on.

1:48.9

There's a bunch of judicial intrigue.

1:51.6

This thing goes on for 16 years.

1:53.4

We're going to talk about how it began, how it ended, and everything in between.

1:57.8

It's all coming up on Money Talks by Slate Money.

2:05.0

Jay, let's start with you introducing yourself and take some time on this one because I feel

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