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SLAPP'd: Green NGOs, Pipeline Mercenaries, and reporting on the Water Protector movement w/ Tristan Ahtone and Alleen Brown

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History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

TRN Podcast host Nick Estes interviews Allen Brown (@AlleenBrown) from Drilled and Tristan Ahtone (@Tahtone) from Grist about their investigation into the legal war waged on the Standing Rock Water Protectors and their allies years after the end of the encampments. 

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"A court ordered Greenpeace to pay a pipeline company $660M. What happens next?"

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Welcome, everyone.

0:32.4

We're joined today by two guests, Tristan, Atoon, and Aline Brown.

0:37.3

Both are returning guests to this podcast.

0:39.6

We're excited to have you both on here.

0:41.9

This is about a topic we've been covering.

0:44.1

Lately, we had a previous episode with the Water Protector Legal Collectives,

0:49.6

executive director, Natalisa Govia, on the counterinsurgency tactic or the lawfare tactics employed by

0:58.0

energy transfer partners to go after Greenpeace. You can check out that podcast in our podcast library

1:05.8

or our YouTube page to check out more from that. But we're kind of doing a little bit different sort

1:12.1

of approach. We're going to delve a little bit deeper into this story, covering it from the

1:17.1

perspective of two journalists that I have the privilege of calling friends and colleagues

1:24.0

every now and then. But today, you know, if you guys want to just introduce yourself and talk a little bit about

1:30.7

the angles that you're taking for these projects because, Aline, you're the host and

1:36.9

the writer for a podcast series through the Drilled podcast and Tristan.

1:43.2

I'm not quite sure you, maybe you can, are you the editor or are you a reporter on the new Grist

1:48.3

series that's coming out.

1:50.7

Yeah, I'm just the editor on the on the Grist version, drinked version, basically.

1:57.4

So that's my role.

1:59.6

Yeah, I'm a freelance reporter. I'm also an editor for a podcast

2:04.3

called Drilled. In addition to working with Tristan, you know, writing and reporting this piece

2:10.2

about the energy transfer versus Greenpeace case for Grist. I'm also reporting and hosting a podcast

2:16.7

series for Drilled.

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