Oh my God, hi. It's me, Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular

culture as the most important kind of culture because other cultures don't have awards shows.

To this end, Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop culture

battle to the ego death. To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their

rhetorical skills,

maybe the great comebacks that they thought of on the stairwell, just a moment too late,

to earn the coveted Troubled Waters title, Pundit, Emeritus,

which will automatically give their opinion on thinking that you know more about Blackbird than Paul McCartney does,

more weight than a civilians.

You are listening to troubled waters. I am in an airless soundproof environment.

I am coming to you from the Sirius XM Studios,

if it sounds a little bit more,

I don't know, professional. That's because, you know, I'm here at a massive satellite radio

conglomerate. Kelly Ben Simone of the Real Housewives is in another studio, a couple down,

talking to Jeff Lewis. Chas Dean, the stylist, is doing her hair. There's a lot going on here. So, you know, you might just hear a little extra excitement in my voice today. But let's meet our contestants. Our first contestant is a comic. Her debut album, Soft Bones was just released.. It's Ellie He now. Hello, Ellie.

Hi, thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much for being here.

How's your day?

Where are you?

I'm in my house, in my spare bedroom that's filled with junk.

And I'm in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

And I'm just living the life. and I'm just living the life.

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