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Sister Wives Season 20 Episode 14: You Are Toxic To Me

Psych Legal Pop Podcast

Tess & Brooke Brigham

Relationships, True Crime, Society & Culture, Tv & Film

4.2610 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Kody finishes his apology tour meeting Meri in Cedar City. This may be the toughest apology of all. Janelle travels to Salt Lake City to seek a spiritual release from her marriage to Kody. Christine explains the concept of a "basement wife" to David.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to the Psychlegal Pop podcast. This is a podcast where we talk about popular

0:06.5

culture through the lens of an attorney and a therapist. I'm Tess Brigham. I'm the therapist.

0:11.2

And I'm Brooke Brigham. I'm the attorney. And we are back today with our coverage of sister

0:16.8

wives. This is season 20, episode 14, you are toxic to me.

0:22.4

And I just want to start out by saying Mary and Mary's therapist.

0:26.9

You guys have done a lot of work together because I, however you, Jen, I'll give one

0:32.8

applause to Jen.

0:34.5

Mary, I have to say she handled herself the best that she could.

0:40.4

Under the circumstances, she was very open and direct, but guarded.

0:46.9

And, you know, not like I'm not, we're not best friends here.

0:49.5

Like, and really what came in with like, I want to know what it is.

0:53.5

And she clocked it very soon. And she tried and she tried. And then finally she's like, okay, I don't, I'm not gonna change him. And so fine, you need to do this great. Good for you. And yeah, it's, it's, I'm sure she walked away and was like that man, Lord, she said it. He learned nothing. He's no different. He's no

1:11.4

better. But Mary, I got to give you, you were the star of this episode, I have to say. The one thing,

1:17.7

yeah, the one thing I was disappointed about and I don't want to be superficial was the outfit.

1:24.0

Okay, Mary, that shirt, it's not, the shirt and the jeans are not very flattering. Now, you need to look casual, like you don't really care, but you need to look your best casual. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's an element of all of this. If you're going to see an X, you have to be looking, I'm sorry, I'm very petty, you have to be looking your best. Do you know what I mean? Like I would have gotten, I don't know if I would have gotten a blowout, but I might have gotten my blowout. I might have gotten, you know, maybe I would have gotten, I would have put on a shirt that was a little more flattering, a little bit sexier. And then maybe jeans, maybe wide leg, maybe straight leg, you know, I'd be, but, but I mean, she, she definitely had that unbothered, you know, that unbothered bitch kind of thing where she's like, she stopped at that sway, swig to get one of those drinks.

2:13.2

Right. She had a swig, swig. Yeah. She came armed with her drink and yeah, I don't, yeah, just for a second about Mary's

2:22.7

clothes. It's really, I did see a recent video of her where she was wearing some jeans that were more

2:27.8

like barrel jeans. And I'm like, oh, thank God someone like is helping her maybe. Because she always

2:33.4

wears those tight jeans

2:35.0

in style nor are they flattering on anyone who's over a size four yeah you have to be

2:43.4

stick straight like a boy I think because I'll wear skinny jeans if I wear boots and I think

2:49.7

maybe that you can get away with that but But even that, no, you, if you have hips at all, which we all do, you have to wear straight leg or wide leg pants or, you know, something. That would be so much more flattering.

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