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The Vergecast

Siri is a Gemini

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

Tech News, Technology, News

4.3 • 4.3K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 16 January 2026

ā±ļø 103 minutes

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Summary

Nearly two years ago, Apple showed off what an AI-powered Siri might do. That Siri never materialized, but thanks to a deal with Google for its Gemini tech, it might finally have a chance to work. David and Nilay discuss the ins and outs of the deal, and what it might mean for both Apple's and Google's ambitions in AI. (They also talk about the onslaught of new lawsuits from publishers related to Google's adtech antitrust case, including from our parent company Vox Media. Disclosure is our brand.) After that, they talk about Grok's horrific deepfake problem on X, and why everyone involved deserves the blame. Then it's time to pour one out for VR and the metaverse, which is losing steam as Meta loses interest and continues to pivot to AI. RIP Supernatural, a surprise hit of an exercise app! Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, the latest Paramount / Warner / Netflix drama, the Trump Phone, and the Digg reboot. Further reading: The Atlantic, Penske, and Vox Media have all sued Google for antitrust violations Apple picks Google’s Gemini AI for its big Siri upgrade What Apple and Google’s Gemini deal means for both companies Google’s Gemini AI will use what it knows about you from Gmail, Search, and YouTubeĀ  Why Google Gemini looks poised to win the AI race over OpenAIĀ  A ā€œconscious decisionā€ from OpenAI.Ā  X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UKĀ  Advocacy groups demand Apple and Google block X from app storesĀ  UK pushes up a law criminalizing deepfake nudes in response to Grok X claims it has stopped Grok from undressing people, but of course it hasn’tĀ Ā  Meta plans to lay off hundreds of metaverse employees this weekĀ  Meta confirms Reality Labs layoffs and shifts to invest more in wearablesĀ  Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cutsĀ  Meta’s layoffs hit the studio that made Batman: Arkham Shadow, too.Ā  Ā Supernatural Will No Longer Get New Content Or Features Ā FTC won’t appeal court decision permitting Meta to buy Within The best thing to do in VR is work out FCC chair Brendan Carr is pressed on removing ā€˜independent’ from its website.Ā  Verizon gets FCC permission to end 60-day phone unlocking ruleĀ  Anthropic wants you to use Claude to ā€˜Cowork’ in latest AI agent pushĀ  Paramount sues after Warner Bros. Discovery rejects its latest dealĀ Netflix is reportedly considering an all-cash offer for Warner Bros.Ā  The new Digg is launching an open beta.Ā  Elon Musk Cannot Get Away With This Subscribe to The VergeĀ for unlimited access toĀ theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and ourĀ ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts toĀ vergecast@theverge.comĀ or call us at 866-VERGE11. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:55.6

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0:58.1

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1:01.1

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1:05.2

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1:09.1

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1:22.2

Welcome with the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of Foundation Model Foundations, which are a thing that we understand. I'm a friend David Pierce. Neil Appetalz here. Hey, buddy. There's so many concepts in this episode of the Vergecast. We literally got an email that was like, can you explain to me what a foundation for a foundation model is? And yes, in fact, that is what we are going to attempt to do here on the verge cast.

1:45.2

Neil, have you recovered from CES? How are you feeling?

1:58.0

I've recovered. I think I'm feeling better. You know, this is like the first working week of the year for us, for real. So there's a lot of catching up to do because everyone else is one week ahead. And then everyone got sick because that's what happens. swing of yes.

1:59.3

But I think

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