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The Vergecast

How BYD beat Tesla

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

Tech News, Technology, News

4.34.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

There’s a new biggest name in EVs, and if you live in the US, you pretty much can’t buy one. But before we get to that, we have some stuff to catch up on: The Verge's Hayden Field joins us for a round of “Big Deal Medium Deal Small Deal” with some AI news, from the launch of ChatGPT Health to the recent viral moment for Claude Code. After that, The Verge’s Andy Hawkins joins the show to explain how BYD recently eclipsed Tesla as the world’s largest seller of electric vehicles, what makes its cars so desirable, and when you, too, might be able to buy a Dolphin Surf. Finally, David tackles a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about giving your kids iPads instead of iPhones, and whether all screen time is created equal. Further reading: Car influencers love Chinese EVs — and China loves them back Tesla’s fourth quarter sales fell a lot more than expected From Inside EVs: A Guide To BYD, The Chinese Automaker That Just Surpassed Tesla Anthropic wants you to use Claude to ‘Cowork’ in latest AI agent push Anthropic shakes up C-suite to expand its internal incubator OpenAI launches ChatGPT Health, encouraging users to connect their medical records Google brings buy buttons to Gemini and AI search Grok is undressing children — can the law stop it? Google is taking over your Gmail inbox with AI Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Birdcast, the flagship podcast of the BYD Dolphin Surf.

0:06.5

If that is three words that you've never heard in that order before, don't worry.

0:10.5

It's all going to make sense later in this episode.

0:12.4

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I have huge news for you, which is that I finally, after,

0:16.9

I don't know how many hours of trying, got this silly little IKEA button hooked up to my smart home. So now, if you're watching this on YouTube, this is going to, it's not going to look very exciting either way, but let's be honest. Now I have a thing where I can just, I can turn two lights off all at once with one press of a button and then another press of a button turns them back on. This is all I want out of my smart home. And somehow this took a whole lot of work and I had to update my echo.comax and my Eero network. And then I had to do a bunch of weird insane stuff. I don't think it was worth it at all, but it felt good. And I'm glad I accomplished something. This is the smart home road I am somehow going down, and I think it will be the end of me. Anyway, no smart home stuff on today's show. Today we're going to do two things on the show. First, we're going to talk to Hayden Field about some of the AI stuff that's been going on the last couple of weeks. While we were out over the holidays and then while we were at CES, there's been this interesting drumbeat of AI products. I think this is the year we're going to talk about

1:14.5

how we actually use AI and what it means in our lives. Hayden's been covering a lot of it. A lot of it has been coming out. So we're going to just try to catch up on all of it, kind of all at once. then we're going to talk to Andy Hawkins about this company, B.Y.D, which has come from

1:29.1

not necessarily nowhere, but relatively small beginnings to become one of the most important

1:35.2

car companies in the world. And as a very recently, the biggest, most successful EV maker

1:40.3

on the planet. I don't know a lot about BYD, and on this episode, we're going to change that. Plus, we have a really fun hotline question about all the different sized screens in your life, lots of fun stuff to get to. But first, I have a terrible news, which is that I have two more of these buttons, and now I have to figure out what to do with them. Wish me luck. This is the Vergecast. We'll be right back. Something unexpected has arrived in Happy Meal. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Hello Kitty and friends are teaming up for the ultimate collab. Joining your little ones on a fun-fueled adventure. Some fun, some food. It's all inside this Happy Meal. Until the 2nd of February from 11am includes one pre-selected book or toy, whilst that's last.

2:20.3

Olivia Culpo here to tell you all about the launch of the new Abercrombie Spring Denom Collection,

2:25.7

made the way denim should feel. Their denim has always been a staple in my wardrobe and has a wide

2:30.6

range of fits, styles, and washes. Every gene is available in both their classic fit and viral curve love.

2:37.7

Shop in the app, online, and in stores.

2:45.0

AI is incredible.

2:50.8

They can teach you how to fry an egg and even write a poem, pirate style.

2:55.7

But it knows nothing about your work.

2:59.6

Slackbot is different.

3:01.0

It doesn't just know the facts.

3:02.9

It knows your schedule.

3:04.5

It can turn a brainstorm into a brief.

3:07.0

And it doesn't need to be taught. Because Slackbot

3:10.1

isn't just another AI. It's AI that knows your work as well as you do. Visit Slack.com forward

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