Sir Roger Penrose | The Emperor’s New Mind: Consciousness & Computer | INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast (#311)

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Science, Physics, Natural Sciences

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🗓️ 11 April 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Watch the video of this episode here: https://youtu.be/5Ag6jpvIa2w?=sub_confirmation=1 On 6 October 2020 The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has awarded the 2020 #NobelPrize in Physics with one half to Roger Penrose and the other half jointly to Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez. I was delighted to have had this chance to discuss life, physics and everything with my friend Sir Roger Penrose, who endorsed my book Losing the Nobel Prize back in 2018. Well, now Sir Roger has WON the Nobel Prize. We discussed the first popular science book your host Professor Keating ever read: The Emperor's New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds, and the Laws of Physics https://amzn.to/306hUG1 and Shadows of the Mind: A Search for the Missing Science of Consciousness https://amzn.to/2QFbt9M Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS (born 8 August 1931) is an English mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher of science. He is Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics in the University of Oxford, an emeritus fellow of Wadham College, Oxford and an honorary fellow of St John's College, Cambridge. Penrose has made contributions to the mathematical physics of general relativity and cosmology. He has received several prizes and awards, including the 1988 Wolf Prize for physics, which he shared with Stephen Hawking for the Penrose–Hawking singularity theorems. Penrose sat down with Professor Brian Keating to discuss artificial intelligence, consciousness, cosmology, and the many fascinating developments in physics since the publication of The Emperor’s New Mind in 1989. Additional Talks by Sir Roger Penrose: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1WH_SkazQ&t=2284s New Theory of Dark Matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSMME-Cl5g Physics and Fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaIdJMxP6bA www.twitter.com/RogerPenrosePhy Summary of Professor Prenrose Concepts from Think Like A Nobel Prize Winner: https://briankeating.com/roger_penrose.php Subscribe to the Jordan Harbinger Show for amazing content from Apple’s best podcast of 2018! https://www.jordanharbinger.com/podcasts Please leave a rating and review: On Apple devices, click here, https://apple.co/39UaHlB On Spotify it’s here: https://spoti.fi/3vpfXok On Audible it’s here https://tinyurl.com/wtpvej9v Find other ways to rate here: https://briankeating.com/podcast Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating or become a Member on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join To advertise with us, contact [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Human understanding is not a
0:05.0	and the girdle theorem tells you that our understanding is not
0:11.0	understanding is not a computation. I think the argument is pretty clear that what we do when we understand a proof in mathematics is not following an algorithm.
0:22.0	Now what is it in our abilities to think, perceive conscious perception
0:29.0	that transcends competition?
0:31.0	Conscious beings came about in a way by natural selections. They were successful
0:36.4	in the view I hold by probing the laws of physics at a much deeper level than we've seen yet at this level where we see
0:45.4	non-computable action and this has to be still it was already the argument I gave
0:50.0	in the in the in the episode new mind but it has to be at this place where we have to go beyond current quantum
0:56.4	theory.
0:59.4	Welcome everyone to this replay episode of Into the
1:06.1	Impossible with legendary mathematical physicist and Nobel laureate Sir Roger
1:11.4	Penrose. Professor Penrose was an early pre-pandemic guest in 2020 in our first studio at UC San Diego.
1:20.0	Sir Penrose penned the first science book our host Brian Heating ever read,
1:25.0	The Emperor's New Mind, a masterful work that resonates with relevance today with the rise of artificial intelligence.
1:32.0	He argues that consciousness today with the rise of artificial intelligence.
1:32.6	He argues that consciousness and the ability to understand
1:37.4	cannot be explained by computation alone,
1:40.4	but could emerge from quantum processes.
1:43.0	Sir Rogers and Comium of Professor Keating's 2018 book
1:47.2	losing the Nobel Prize is science come full circle.
1:50.4	In 2020 Professor Penrose was awarded the Nobel Prize for his work on Black Hole
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