Hey, gang. So today I'm interviewing Sir Raymond Winters. Sir Raymond Winters is the son of Sir Jason Winters,

the originator, the discoverer, formulator, I don't know what word to use, of Jason Winters T.

Now, Jason Winter's T has become legendary because in 1977, Jason Winters was diagnosed with cancer

and went all over the world trying to get well and did a lot of holistic and alternative

therapies and eventually put a handful of herbs together in a tea and drank it, and his tumor started shrinking

and eventually went away, and his body healed. And so for 40 years, they have been sharing

this tea, this herbal tea formula. And I read the book, Killing Cancer, that Jason wrote many years ago. And it's, I'm going to let Sir Raymond

fill in the blanks here, but it sold millions of copies back in the early 80s. And of course,

since then. And so it's a really, it's a big thrill for me. It's a thrill and a treat and an

honor to talk to Sir Raymond Winters and to introduce

you to him, to introduce you to the Jason Winter's story. If you don't know it, you know, I talk about it

in my first book. Some of you might remember that from Krispy Cancer, but we're going to really

go more into detail on the story because Raymond was a teenager when all this happened to his dad.

Absolutely.

Without further ado, Raymond Winters.

Thanks, man.

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Hi, everyone.

Thank you, Chris.

Thanks for having me.

I want you to know, I have your book, and I absolutely love it.

I want to thank you for writing something this wonderful. And I want to thank you for writing something this wonderful,

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