Hello, everyone. This is Tripp, and you're back on the Homebrewed Christianity Podcast.

And today we have a very special episode. It's part of our ongoing series exploring artificial

intelligence and the human future. Throughout this series, I've been joined by my friend

Kester Bruin, author of the brand new book, Godlike,

which is really an exploration of the 500-year history of artificial intelligence and the need

for a deeper language, even theological language, to wrestle with what it means for us as a species.

This interview is with Sir Christopher Pissorides, who is a Nobel Prize-winning economist and Professor

Emeritus at the London School of Economics and Political Science. He's spent quite a bit of time

exploring the relationship of technology and labor, obviously within the economic system,

and looking at its human impact. And what is it like to take the transformation that's taking place in technology and how it reworks our economic relationships, taking it seriously and thinking about the challenges that rise ahead and the opportunities within it. It's a fascinating conversation.

I hope you enjoyed listening to it as much as I do because this is one that my co-pilot in the series Kester joined.

Now, if you dig it and you want to find out more about this entire series, then head over to Process This.

That is our Substack newsletter, Process this.substack.com.

And you'll be able to see all the different interviews through the Artificial Intelligence

series. You can join up, get access to ad-free versions of the podcast and then invite it.

In just a few weeks, we'll be wrapping this series up.

Kester will be coming up back on.

We'll be answering some of your questions and reflecting on what we've learned,

what's been gained through all these conversations and what are the questions we still have

are the challenges we see that lie ahead.

So I'd love for you to come join.

And with that, I want to let you in, let you in to a conversation between Kester

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