You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to serious inquiries. This is episode number 85.

I'm your host Thomas Smith.

All right, for this week's interview,

I'm bringing you a nice long one with PZ Myers.

We talk about so much.

We talk about atheism plus. We talk talk about kind of I wanted to get his

view of the movement how it went from his angle because we haven't actually spoken before

I know a little bit about it but definitely not the whole story and I'm sure a lot of people listening

don't know the whole story and if you don't know PZ he is of course a biologist he has

been very involved in the atheist movement from the beginning from as he'll

describe and he writes his blog foringula and he also

runs the free thought blogs network he's someone I'm very glad to finally have

spoken to I think you'll enjoy the interview so without further ado here we go

I'm joined right now by PZ Myers PZ it is so good to talk to you for the first time we've never spoken or met but I feel like I feel like now is a good time.

Yeah, well there's there's billions of people I have not spoken to or met.

That's true. I'm just one of those billions.

We're just reducing that number by one.

I am so excited to talk to you because you know I followed you for a long time and I think that there's a lot from my perspective anyway There's there's a progression I've definitely gone through.

Now having gone through this mythosis Milwaukee thing, I think I see a little better where

you've been coming from for years.

So I was really curious. I had the idea because I met somebody at this

mythosse Milwaukee event who came up to me and said,

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