You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and I'm your host Thomas Smith.

I am so excited to have back on the show Alex Chules.

I ask him some of the questions I have posed and said,

hmm, I should ask Alex this back when I talked about the new Jim Crow and

much more stuff. Here it is another long, fascinating, great conversation with Alex Jules.

Joining me back for the sequel is Alex Jules.

How you doing Alex. I'm good how are you

Thomas? It's the I'm very excited this is so many people commented in on this

status that I did soliciting more questions and stuff that were just like,

yeah, talk about whatever, he's the best.

I was like, okay, doesn't, I mean thank you, but also doesn't really help but okay no that's kind of a good

so this is part deer right yeah and we'll do that and there's a lot to talk about now

first I want to ask you about,

and you were kind enough to listen to a recent episode of mine

where I talked about just finished the book,

The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander.

I can't, I'm embarrassed to say it took me until now to come

across that one and read it. It was a fascinating read. It feels like a really vital

read to me and I had some questions about it do you want to say

anything in general about it first I think everyone should read it but you know you

were you made a comment that I thought was interesting a little bit earlier that you

yeah you embarrassed that you hadn't read it.

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