You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to serious inquiries. This is episode 63.

I'm your host Thomas Smith.

All right, got a really good conversation

for you today with Michael A Wood Jr.

We started off kind of in one direction. We were going to talk about the

atheist movement a little bit. Some observations he had having not really been a

part of it for a while and then coming back and seeing kind of where it is now.

But you know we didn't end up focusing on that

a whole lot just to give you the heads up. We ended up having a pretty heated debate

about neoliberalism and what candidates we should be supporting, how to move forward to

accomplish the kind of social change we need. It was really fascinating stuff. One of those cases

where I think I'm debating someone pretty far to the left of me

and we're trying to find some common ground there. So it was really fascinating. Thanks

so much to Michael for coming on and here we go. Let's get over to it. Michael A Wood Jr how you doing Michael

I'm fine Thomas how are you a little pleasure to be here with a wonderfully thinking mind of a

Thanks so much man you reached out it was really interesting me. I can't wait to hear what you're talking about now you've been on the show we talked a lot about police reform I know there's always more we could cover on that but you reached out to me and I think you said that you've kind of been

away from atheism for a while and you've come back and you're someone alarmed at

what you've found I'm really curious to hear you haven't given me the full details yet I'm really curious to hear. You haven't given me the full details yet.

I'm really curious to hear about this.

Yeah I'm extremely alarmed. I guess essentially what happened is is I got into

deep into activism for Black Lives Matter, for police reform, for things like that, right about the time that

Hitch had died. I started seeing logical flaws in what Harris was talking about.

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