You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to Series Inc. where is only this episode 107. I'm your host Thomas Smith. I am so excited today to bring you Alex Jules back for I think the third time probably. It's always fun when he's on. It's always very educational.

In the conversation I set up what we were going to talk about and kind of what I wanted to do.

So no need for more preamble.

Let's get right to it. I am joined once again by Alex Jules.

Alex thank you so much for coming back on the show.

Oh, thank you very much for having me.

I'm really excited.

I will say a couple things.

So I was kind of geared up to talk about this topic a little on my own, but then I reached out to you. You said you were very

familiar with a lot of the authors in question, and so I'm so glad you're here to join me to probably

have way more insight. But I only mention that because I have a few opinions.

I want to make sure to get out there,

so this might not be your typical kind of Q&A interview.

Like, you might, unfortunately, bear with me,

but I may have to go on just one or two rants.

Okay. So what happened was I talked about this a little on my show. Don't know if you caught it but the

Tanahisi and I always say Tani, because it's spelled that way,

but I recently heard him say his own name,

and he pronounces it Tanahasey.

So I'm wrong.

I guess I'll, if I accidentally say that wrong sorry.

Tanahasi Coates, you know, the Cornell West column that was written about him and

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