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People who think about climate change and people who are doing something about it.

On the Zero podcast, we talk to both kinds of people.

People you've heard of, like Bill Gates.

I'm looking at what the world has to do to get to zero, not using climate as a moral crusade.

And the creative minds you haven't heard of yet.

It is serious stuff, but never doom and gloom.

I am Akshadratti.

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We'll get to my essay of the year in a moment.

What a joy.

A whole wide set of guests today.

Thanks to Keith Cowing of NASA Watch for giving us great perspective on

Elon Musk and his space effort and what Mr. Bezos is doing with Blue Origin, everybody

got safe back to Earth after going up 62 miles. They call it Shepard, but it's sort of like

Alan Shepard and Mercury 1, where we're here, we're going up and we're coming right back down. I but it's sort of like Alan Shepard and Mercury 1, where we're here,

we're going up and we're coming right back down. I think it's sort of cool that they call

it the Shepard mission. Our mission today was good conversation. Mandeep Singh on AI,

we'll have them more and more. Tomorrow, to look ahead at gold at 4,000, maybe 4,100 by the time James Steele comes in the

studio tomorrow from HSBC.

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