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We said somewhere, halfway into this Friday, and here are a single best idea, we said, okay, there's unknowns, and Mohammed Alarian says there's unknown unknowns, or maybe we're to the point where there's unknown, unknown unknowns.

And the only solution is to attempt to listen to smart people. When we were so fortunate

this week, Eric and Juan in the whole room, the interns, just superb. The interns from Fordham,

really, I think they're like almost, you know, better. Anyways, we had a great set of conversations.

Robert Hormats joined us.

He is definitive.

You know him from Goldman Sachs and all of his work with Kissinger Associates.

What you don't know is, is a young Turk out of Tufts.

He assisted Kissinger and Winston Lord in all of the development of our economic

philosophy with China. What an honor to speak to Ambassador Hormats today. Here are Hormats

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