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Podcasts, Radio News. The press conference last night, I'll be honest, I watched every minute. The truth is folks, I rarely watch the stuff.

I've got so many good people telling me what happens that there's no reason for me to watch it.

But I made an exception last night for this historic moment for all Americans of whatever political persuasion you are.

By chance today, it wasn't an over-time. whatever political persuasion you are.

By chance today, it wasn't an overt chance,

but we talked to two people between them,

I'm sorry, 110, 120 years of experience in our economics, finance, investment,

international relations, and the culture of Wall Street.

Bob Hormat's was definitive at Goldman Sachs International, taking on all

sorts of public duties for the nation. Ambassador Hormat's ended up working for Secretary Clinton and Economics, a very active period, I would say, for the Secretary and for the Undersecretary Robert.

Hormat's.

We talked about China, he just got back. We talked about this, we talked about

that. But I felt I had to have a responsible question from the 81- old Robert Hormitz.

I'd make a broader point which gets just what you're saying.

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