Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran, fighting your tour manager in catering because there's no gluten-free pancakes or else a scrappy upstart, begging the promoter for a $5 buyout so that you can get some ramen, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the last Friday of January 2025 and I thank you for joining us. This week's show is

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