There is an irrational component to this and there is a personal and emotional component to this,

which is that if you look hopefully a little more objectively at what's going on with tech,

and they're doing pretty well.

But some of these very rich leaders in tech have such personal disgust for anything that seems like

wokeness or social justice for where they see the infiltration of the woke mind virus

into corporate life and into their own lives,

that it has helped make them into reactionaries

and made them Trump supporters.

So it certainly is some of Call-A and Call of B,

but, and you probably have to judge on a case-by-case basis.

You know, undoubtedly, monetary self-interest

lies with Trump.

Hello and welcome to tackle Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Jacob Silverman.

If you've been listening to the show for a while, you will be familiar with Jacob as a regular guest.

But if you're not, he's the co-author of easy money, cryptocurrency, casino capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud. He's also working on a new book right now looking at tech and

right-wing politics called Gilded Rage that will be out in fall of 2025. Unfortunately, it's not

available for pre-order yet, but keep it in mind because you will want to grab that one when it

comes out. For a while now, we have seen the

tech industry increasingly embracing right-wing politics, and in particular, more extreme

versions of it around Trumpism, MAGA, these sorts of ideas. But after the attempted assassination

of Donald Trump on July 13th, we saw that really accelerate, where a lot of people who were maybe a bit

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