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It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

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From Pushkin Industries, this is deep background, the show where we explored the stories behind

the stories in the news. And if I sound a little different on this episode, it's because

in deference to Corona norms, I'm actually recording it myself

without the aid of our excellent sound engineers. Right now, I think the most immediate

question on my mind, and it may be on your mind too, is, how do I know if my symptoms or those

of one of my loved ones actually correspond to coronavirus.

There's tons of information going around on the internet, and it's a little hard to know

what's reliable and what isn't.

I thought it would be useful to talk to a frontline primary care physician who's actually

in charge of programs where lots and lots of doctors are seeing patients who are presenting with coronavirus.

So I called Dr. Rebecca Berman, the program director at the University of California, San Francisco's

Internal Medicine Residency Program. That means she's the person in charge of training the actual doctors

who are going to become residents in internal medicine. And internal medicine means in a hospital

the main job of seeing patients.

I asked Rebecca about how we should be thinking about symptoms, which symptoms actually tell

us that we should go to the hospital,

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