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From Pushkin Industries, this is Deep Background, the show where we explore the stories behind the

stories in the news. I'm Noah Feldman. We're all in the process of doing our best to social distance

to stop the spread of coronavirus.

And for most of us, and probably it should be for all of us, that basically means self-imposed

isolation of a certain degree.

But there are many people in the United States whose isolation is involuntary, and that is

people who are incarcerated in jails, in prisons,

or in immigration detention centers run by ICE.

Prisoners have already tested positive for coronavirus in New York, in Georgia, and other states as well.

That's going to continue, and officials are scrambling to figure out how to stop the spread inside of institutions

like prisons and jails. To discuss this situation, I spoke to Dr. Homer Venters. Until recently,

he was the chief medical officer of the New York City Correctional Health Services. Now he's

president of an organization called Community-oriented

correctional health services, which is a nonprofit that builds partnerships between jails and

community health care providers. He has a new book called Life and Death in Rikers Island, which is

precisely about the health risks of incarceration, and he was involved in 2009 in New York City's efforts to deal with

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