Happy Friday listeners. We are joined again by Matt Chandler, the lead pastor at the village

church and the author of the new book, The Mingling of Souls. God's design for love, marriage,

sex and redemption. He joins us by phone from Dallas and Matt. I've got 10 questions on

relationships queued up for you. Here's number eight in our list. If a man or a woman is trying

to stop looking at pornography, but he cannot. Many Christian men struggle here. Are they ready to

date or not? And if not, what is the line between being ready and not ready to date for a Christian

porn addict? Yeah, so this is, this is an extremely, I think, complex question. It's hard to answer

outside of actually knowing the people involved. So my knee jerk reaction is, no, you're not ready.

Let's get this handled. But I think what I would want to do is sit down and I would want to

know what's going on. Where's mortification happening? Where's vivification happening? What do we

mean when we say porn addict? I mean, are we saying that this guy or this girl once a year stumbles

into? Are we saying this is every couple of times a month is, where are we in relation to frequency,

healing, victory? And I think all of those would come into play on whether or not I would

encourage someone to be in a relationship while they wrestled. The truth is, all of us, say,

every one of us are coming into our relationship with the opposite sex, needing further sanctification,

needing growth, needing to grow in our identity, needing our identity in Christ, needing to have

parts of our flesh mortified. And so this one's just going to affect the relationship in deeper

ways in regards to being able to, I've read almost everything I could on the horrific issues

that porn addiction brings about in a guy's or girl's ability to even be emotionally connected

to people. And so that's why I mean, I would kind of want to get to the bottom of who we're talking

to here. I mean, when we're saying addict, what do we mean by that? And so without kind of that

information, it becomes hard to just lay a hard answer down. But I don't know that I would say

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