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Talking Feds

Signposts of Democratic Decline

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

Election, Government, January 6, Politics, Merrick Garland, Law, Harry Litman, Trump, News, Legal

4.84.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Harry talks with Andrea Pitzer, who has reported extensively on democratic decline in countries such as Chile, Russia, and Hungary, and has written extensively about historical examples especially Nazi Germany. She discusses signal developments in authoritarian democracy that degraded into authoritarian rule, bringing the illustrations back to compare and contrast with Trump’s first few days of rule and the landscape ahead. The two discuss the most important developments that signify dramatic social and political degradations, as well as the most important indications of decline so severe as to take countries to the other side of the democracy/authoritarian divide. Harry analyzes the particular assaults on the department of justice and the judiciary that Trump is pursuing, and how they dovetail with strong man moves in authoritarian regime. A fair bit of a discussion concerns the potential analogy between Hitler’s brownshirts, who played such a major role in destroying the rule of law in Germany, and the hundreds of pardoned January 6 rioters who now stand ready to resume their violent support of Trump’s agenda.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-One,

0:09.2

deep-dive discussions with national figures

0:12.3

about the most fascinating and consequential issues

0:16.2

defining our culture and shaping our lives.

0:19.8

I'm your host, Harry Littman. Welcome to another talking feds

0:24.7

one-on-one. The first few days of Trump rule have been a disaster for democracy with a dizzying

0:31.9

series of vicious and radical moves that more than reinforced the fears of all the people who were sounding the alarm

0:38.7

for months before the election.

0:40.8

Yet the feel remains that many Americans are taking it, if not exactly, in stride.

0:46.8

The pardons have been unpopular.

0:49.0

He begins his term in a 47% approval rating quite low historically, although that's kind of a piece for him.

0:58.2

But if not, and sorry, then without grave concern.

1:01.8

And that's, in turn, a matter of grave concern to nearly anyone who understands the way democracies

1:08.4

actually can degrade and who studied the progress or the process

1:13.3

in other countries. So I'm really pleased to welcome today one of the most thoughtful and

1:18.2

knowledgeable experts on that topic. Andrea Pitzer, Andrea runs the degenerate art newsletter.

1:25.9

She's the author of three books. Most relevant here is

1:29.3

one long night, a global history of concentration camps. But I'm here to tell you, please look

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her up. She is a dizzying polyglot. And I first learned of her through her remarkable book,

1:44.5

The Secret History of Ledima Nabokov on the family history of Nabokov.

1:50.7

But you can find out more about her current and past work at www.

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Andrea Pitzer.com.

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