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SHOW SCHEDULE 25 JUNE 2025 GOOD EVENING. The show begins in Iran over the Fordow suspect nuclear weapon tunnels that have as yet unknown certain fate..

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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SHOW SCHEDULE 25 JUNE 2025

GOOD EVENING. The show begins in Iran over the Fordow suspect nuclear weapon tunnels that have as yet unknown certain fate...

1879 TEHRAN

CBS EYE ON THE WORLD WITH JOHN BATCHELOR

FIRST HOUR 9:00-9:15 #Iran: BDA low probability. Colonel Jeff McCausland, USA (Retired) @mccauslj @cbsnews @dickinsoncol 9:15-9:30 NATO: #Ukraine: 5% of GDP is the goal. Colonel Jeff McCausland, USA (Retired) @mccauslj @cbsnews @dickinsoncol 9:30-9:45 Tariffs: Cannot delegate the delegated. Rob Natelson, Civitas Institute. 9:45-10:00 Russia: Losing money with oil and gas. Michael Bernstam, Hoover

SECOND HOUR 10:00-10:15 PRC: What did PLA learn from the B-2 mission? Blaine Holt Gordon Chang 10:15-10:30 PRC: Oil reserves? Andrew Collier Gordon Chang 10:30-10:45 PRC: Xi fading? Charles Burton Gordon Chang 10:45-11:00 PRC: PLA Navy carriers and airwings ready 2027. James Fanell Gordon Chang

THIRD HOUR 11:00-11:15 1/8: The Spy Who Changed History: The Untold Story of How the Soviet Union Won the Race for America's Top Secrets by Svetlana Lokhova (Author) Format: Kindle Edition

On a sunny September day in 1931, a Soviet spy walked down the gangplank of the luxury transatlantic liner SS Europa and into New York. Attracting no attention, Stanislav Shumovsky had completed his journey from Moscow to enroll at a top American university. He was concealed in a group of 65 Soviet students heading to prestigious academic institutions. But he was after far more than an excellent education.

Recognizing Russia was 100 years behind the encircling capitalist powers, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had sent Shumovsky on a mission to acquire America's vital secrets to help close the USSR's yawning technology gap. The road to victory began in the classrooms and laboratories of MIT – Shumovsky's destination soon became the unwitting finishing school for elite Russian spies. The USSR first transformed itself into a military powerhouse able to confront and defeat Nazi Germany. Then in an extraordinary feat that astonished the West, in 1947 American ingenuity and innovation exfiltrated by Shumovsky made it possible to build and unveil the most advanced strategic bomber in the world.

Following his lead, other MIT-trained Soviet spies helped acquire the secrets of the Manhattan Project. By 1949, Stalin's fleet of TU-4s, now equipped with atomic bombs could devastate the US on his command. Appropriately codenamed BLÉRIOT, Shumovsky was an aviation spy. Shumovsky's espionage was so successful that the USSR acquired every US aviation secret from his network of agents in factories and at top secret military research institutes.

In this thrilling history, Svetlana Lokhova takes the reader on a journey through Stalin's most audacious intelligence operation. She pieces together every aspect of Shumovsky's life and character using information derived from American and Russian archives, exposing how even Shirley Temple and Franklin D. Roosevelt unwittingly advanced his schemes.

11:15-11:30 2/8: The Spy Who Changed History: The Untold Story of How the Soviet Union Won the Race for America's Top Secrets by Svetlana Lokhova (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 11:30-11:45 3/8: The Spy Who Changed History: The Untold Story of How the Soviet Union Won the Race for America's Top Secrets by Svetlana Lokhova (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 11:45-12:00 4/8: The Spy Who Changed History: The Untold Story of How the Soviet Union Won the Race for America's Top Secrets by Svetlana Lokhova (Author) Format: Kindle Edition

FOURTH HOUR 12:00-12:15 France: Heat wave and country lanes. Simon Constable, Occitanie. 12:15-12:30 NATO: On Starmer struggles to find the money for defense pledge of 5%. Simon Constable 12:30-12:45 NASA: Looking for private funding for missions. Bob Zimmerman behindtheblack.com 12:45-1:00 AM Big Astronomy

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1:01.8

Good evening. The show begins tonight in Iran, the battle damage assessment challenge.

1:09.9

Low probability until there are many, many guidance remarks about

1:15.4

this. I take it from my reading and conversation over the years. Air combat is very difficult

1:23.8

to assess from the air. You need inspection on the ground. That doesn't mean you can't

1:30.0

come to conclusions. It means that you need to wait, gather other information about the target,

1:36.8

such as conversation between adversaries or metrics like burning, fires,

1:47.1

battle damage assessment.

1:50.5

I understand it's become a political question as well.

1:56.4

Right now, in conversation with Colonel Jeff McCausen of CBS News,

1:59.7

we need much more information,

2:11.8

especially because there is the open concern of the 60% enriched uranium ore that can be converted into bomb making straightforwardly.

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