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And thank you for joining us here on Ground Zero in the spirit of Clyde Lewis. I welcome you.

Clyde is doing well and we'll be back soon. I am David Master sitting in.

Tonight I have a very, very packed program for you. In hour two we've got Robert J. Sawyer,

the author of the book The Oppenheimer Alternative. Who was Robert Oppenheimer?

Great big, huge question. Apparently there's a movie that has not depicted him as he was.

And we're going to get into that topic tonight. And one of the interesting aspects of this

Oppenheimer chap is that he often, well I think he was a very eclectic person,

interested from what I understand in everything. And when he finally stood back and watched what he

had created when they detonated the first atomic bomb, he said, I am become death the destroyer of worlds.

And I just, that kind of sends chills down my entire being. Now I am become death the destroyer

of worlds. And here we are ladies and gentlemen on the brink of a possible atomic war that's being

fueled by the United States. And I want to say the deep dark state that's funding the potential

for the end of the world as we know it. And it seems like pure insanity to me. But we'll get

into that in hour two with our guest, Robert J. Sawyer. He is an amazing science fiction writer.

The other thing is tonight, the revelations continue to cascade. This one caught me.

And this is from the UFO whistleblower, Mr. Grouch.

But this is, this was from the hearing that was held. And one of the revelations is it's bigger

on the inside. The United States military accused of recovering the UFO that distorted

times a space time. Congressman says government has known of UFOs since 1897. Well, yes.

And I immediately thought to myself 1897 that that rings a bell. The mystery airship or the phantom

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