Hello and welcome to the political party. Today's guest is Harriet Cross, and

Harriet is a very rare thing indeed, a new Conservative MP who won her seat at the last election in Scotland.

So there's lots of things we can learn from Harriet.

She's already been made a whip and this is a fantastic conversation about.

In a way, the benefits of becoming a new MP when your party has been through

a borderline extinction level event like the Tories went through at the last

election, in terms of personal development and the things that you can do are not being

hamstrung perhaps by having won another term and what that would demand of a new MP.

So this is just a really good insight into the life of a new MP in a defeated party.

But also where how politics come from and having grown up in various different rural

communities in the West Coast of Ireland, in Scotland, in England, she's got particular

perspective, but mega amounts of drive.

And what's really interesting about how it is, and a number of conservatives have said this to me on the show over the years. So it's a sort of drive. And what's really interesting about Harry is, and a number of conservatives

have said this to me on the show over the years. So it's a sort of mild trend is that they almost

don't see themselves as ideological. And I know exactly what they mean. Because some people will

scoff at that. And go, but the conservatives, obviously they have political values. But I think

they're less wedded to the dots and commas, perhaps of the ideology, than obviously get those people on the right.

But I think you get more of these people who would say that in Tory circles than perhaps you would in Labour or elsewhere.

So that's just an interesting thing.

But she's young. She's going places. She's really impressive.

So this is a great interview with a rising star, somebody's only been an MP for just every year. My next live

show, now I've got another guest announcement to make. So the next three shows are booked. So

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