Show 374. Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah CBE
Matt Forde's Political Party
The Political Party
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
This is a powerful lesson in campaigning, pragmatism and processing grief.
Rosamund's daughter Ella died in 2013 at the age of nine. She is still the only person ever in the UK to have air pollution registered as a cause of death.
Since then, Rosamund has been a relentless campaigner for improving air quality. She has helped change policy here in the UK and has a legion of international admirers that includes Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You can see why. Rosamund is impassioned but also reasonable and empathetic towards those who disagree with her.
She is a total inspiration.
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| 0:45.1 | Today's guest is Rosamund Adoukissy Deborah at CBE. |
| 0:48.6 | Now, those of you who know who Rosamond is will already be huge admirers of hers. |
| 0:53.5 | She is a phenomenal campaigner for clean air |
| 0:55.9 | and has already won a number of crucial victories on behalf of all of us. But she's particularly |
| 1:01.7 | passionate about clean air in London and the way that it disproportionately impacts |
| 1:05.5 | less privileged communities. And she's ended up in this position because her daughter, Ella, died in 2013 as a result |
| 1:15.6 | of asthma, contributed to by air pollution. |
| 1:18.3 | She was the first person to have that recorded as the cause of death ever. |
| 1:22.1 | She is still the only. |
| 1:23.8 | And when she outlines the sheer numbers of children going to A&E each year, just in parts of London alone, it is absolutely terrifying that despite policy interventions that we've already had, the numbers are so high. |
| 1:39.1 | Now, I became a fan of it a few years ago. I heard an interview with her and I've noticed my asthma |
| 1:45.8 | deteriorate since I moved to London. I've just noticed it and as we talk about, you know, you can |
| 1:51.0 | parts of London, you get off the train here, you can taste it. You can, you just know that the air |
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