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Hello, I'm Welcome to the Political Party. Today's guest is one of the biggest stars

of the last conservative government at Weenakuri. And this reminds me so much of the Ken

Clark episode where it's and maybe the Michael has a time on where it's not just a chat about

politics. Not that any of them are just a chat about politics. That's so reductive. But

I really feel like I was taken back in time in this where you can feel you can see the

house of comments around you and how different it was then and the attitudes and the style

of it and the tone of it was just a very different place to how it is now. I felt it so

vividly talking to where we were about our time there and the campaign she worked on.

And this is a broadly COVID free conversation, which I'm sure you'll be very pleased to

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