What's up everyone? Welcome to Creator Sport, the show where we answer your questions about the

business of being a creator. Today on the show, we're talking about hiring, how to hire and how to get

hired. We also respond to some criticism that we got about this show. And lastly, we talk about the

average lifespan of a creator career. All right, our first question comes from Cleo Abram.

So I went independent earlier this year. It's been amazing.

But one of the things that I really miss about working at a media company is that when I was working at Vox, there was this incredible team already built in.

And the biggest struggle that I'm having right now is building that as an independent.

So here's my question for you.

Show us your org chart. Who works for you? What do they do? And what's the biggest mistake that you made when you were hiring people? Thanks.

That's a great question. And hiring is not something that, at least for me personally, that's not a strong suit for me. You've been pretty resistant to it.

I've always been resistant to it. I'm like, why would we bring somebody else in? Let me just lock myself in my room and figure this out.

Yeah, so there's a few parts to Cleo's question and her video. First of all, thank you,

Cleo. If you guys don't watch Cleo, you should definitely go check her out. She's got great

content on her channel. If we back up, she first said the concept of going from a company to going independent.

And I want to talk about that quickly because we did that. So if you guys don't know, Colin and I first

started out as, you know, starting a company called the lacrosse network, got acquired,

went into a company structure that grew to 120 employees. We had our own office here in LA that had grew up to about 15 people.

And then we left.

And when we left, that was the most surprising thing that I didn't think about.

That was probably obvious was how lonely it was going to be.

Like when we left, all of a sudden, it was you and I.

And there wasn't like a group of people to go have lunch with

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