Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics here at

Talbot School of Theology at viola University. And I'm your co-host

Sean McDow, Professor of Christian Apology Edics at Talbot School

Theology Biola University. We're here today with our guest Dr. Mitch Glazer who is the president of

Chosen People Ministries, which is an outreach, an angelistic outreach to Jewish people not only in the United States

but around the world.

And we've asked Mitch to come on with us because we want his reaction to a sermon that has

gotten a lot of attention here in the last couple of weeks.

It was preached by Pastor Andy Stanley, who is the senior pastor of a mega church outside of Atlanta,

Georgia that has a number of church plans attached to it.

And he said some pretty controversial things, Sean.

I like to quote a couple of things.

And we want to give this the most charitable read that we can right from the start.

So I'm using his words, not our paraphrase of these.

But I think the big idea that Andy was trying to get across was that in the early church, particularly in Acts 15 as a result of the Jew,

Gentile controversy in the early church, as he put it the church, church leaders

unhitched the church from the entire worldview,

value system, and regulations of the Old Testament. They detached the church from Judaism,

saw Judaism only as a means to an end that the prophets

predicted in Jesus claim to have fulfilled it. He goes on to mention that the

Jewish scriptures are the backstory only to the main story of the cross and resurrection of Jesus.

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