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The Dr. Hyman Show

Should We Tax Junk Food? with Dr. Larry Summers

The Dr. Hyman Show

Dr. Mark Hyman

Nutrition, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.5 • 9.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

We need to transform our food system and address one of the biggest threats to our well-being: our lack of a coordinated and comprehensive food policy. Our nation’s and the world’s health crises are not driven by medical issues, but rather by social, economic, and political issues that conspire to drive disease. There is clear evidence that taxation on sugar-sweetened beverages results in reduced consumption and provides a funding source for public health measures to fight obesity and chronic disease and improve the health of communities. My guest on this week’s episode of The Doctor’s Farmacy is Larry Summers, former Treasury Secretary and one of America’s leading economists. In addition to serving as 71st Secretary of  the Treasury in the Clinton Administration, Dr. Summers served as Director of the White House National Economic Council in the Obama Administration, as President of Harvard University, and as the Chief Economist of the World Bank. Currently, Summers is the President Emeritus and the Charles W. Eliot University Professor at Harvard University, where he became a full professor at age 28, one of the youngest in Harvard’s recent history. Along with Michael Bloomberg, Dr. Summers recently launched a Task Force on Fiscal Policy for Health.  He chairs the board of the Center for Global Development and chaired the Commission on Global Health, lauded by the UN Secretary General who noted that it “will bring more than health–it will bring equity, and contribute to a life of dignity for all.” In this episode, Larry and I discuss the benefits of taxing junk foods. How would this affect the economy and the epidemic of chronic disease? Find out in this week’s episode of The Doctor’s Farmacy.

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0:00.0

So welcome to the doctor's pharmacy, Dr. Summers.

0:08.1

I'd like to sort of start by asking about how you got into this whole world of global

0:13.7

health and what made you interested because you're focused on the economy and economics

0:18.6

and this seems like a deviation.

0:20.0

So how did you get there?

0:22.0

In the early 1990s, I was the chief economist of the World Bank.

0:27.9

Each year, the World Bank writes a major report on one subject connected with development.

0:36.4

And it's the job of the chief economist to choose the subject of that report.

0:41.7

And we came up and had to make a choice.

0:45.6

And it seemed to me the World Bank had been saying a lot about deregulation, a lot about

0:50.3

divesting state enterprises, a lot about financial sector liberalization.

0:56.5

And I thought it was important that the bank say something about something that affected

1:02.2

the lives of regular people very directly and could influence them, you know, profound

1:08.5

way.

1:09.5

And I was also aware that there had been a lot of new economic research at that time

1:15.0

on the economic analysis of health interventions.

1:19.4

Basically showing that you could use economic analysis to decide how best to allocate

1:24.9

resources, which immunization campaigns would have the highest payoff, where different medical

1:33.2

treatments in a world where you couldn't, in poor countries, do everything you might want

1:37.2

to do, what would have the highest payoff.

1:40.5

And I thought it would be important to highlight that research.

1:44.5

And so I chose as the topic, the global health.

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