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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Should we press pause on AI?

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

How worried should we be about AI? Sean Illing is joined by Stuart J. Russell, a professor at the University of California Berkeley and director of the Center for Human-Compatible AI. Russell was among the signatories who wrote an open letter asking for a six-month pause on AI training. They discuss the dangers of losing control of AI and what the upsides of this rapidly developing technology could be. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Stuart J. Russell, professor at the University of California Berkeley and director of the Center for Human-Compatible AI References: Pause Giant AI Experiments: An Open Letter “AI has much to offer humanity. It could also wreak terrible harm. It must be controlled.” by Stuart Russell (The Observer, April 2023) Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach by Stuart J. Russell and Peter Norvig (Pearson Education International) Human-Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control by Stuart Russell (Penguin Random House, 2020) “A Conversation With Bing’s Chatbot Left Me Deeply Unsettled” by Kevin Roose (New York Times, February 2023) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:17.6

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0:21.9

To find out more, search ITV Britain. Get talking.

0:26.5

Supported by mind and young minds.

0:29.1

ITV.

0:30.7

One of the hardest parts of the news business is striking a balance between covering stories

0:35.6

that seem important now and covering stories that you know will truly matter in the future.

0:43.2

And it's hard because the most consequential things happening in the moment are often boring

0:49.2

or just difficult to explain.

0:53.1

When I think about stories that fit this description, the first one that comes to mind

0:57.8

is artificial intelligence.

1:00.7

The revolution in AI is unfolding so quickly that it's hard to keep up, even if you're trying.

1:07.3

Chat GPT4, for instance, was released in March of this year, and it stunned almost everyone

1:12.9

who used it.

1:14.2

I'm still not sure I understand what it's really doing, but it is quite extraordinary.

1:20.6

If this latest large language model is a sign of what's coming, it is easy to imagine

1:26.1

all the ways it might change the world.

1:28.8

And then, there are all the ways it might change the world that we can't imagine.

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