Naomi Klein on her doppelganger (and yours)

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.6 • 10.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Every generation thinks they’re living through the strangest times, but is our generation right? Sean Illing speaks with writer and activist Naomi Klein about her new book, Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World. They discuss how a much different Naomi — her doppelganger — scrambled her professional life and led to an unexpected plunge into the ironies and absurdities of our digital world. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Naomi Klein (@NaomiAKlein), author of Doppelganger and the co-director of the Centre for Climate Justice References: Doppelganger by Naomi Klein (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2023) The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism (Picador, 2008) No Logo: No Space, No Choice, No Jobs by Naomi Klein (Picador, 1999) Backlash by Susan Faludi (1991) The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power by Shoshana Zuboff (PublicAffairs, 2019) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:54.0	One of the things we try to do on this show is sort through all the confusion in our society.
1:02.0	And if you listen to the show long enough, you probably sense that I think our world is becoming
1:10.0	deranged by our technologies and our media ecosystem.
1:14.0	Deranged might be too strong a word.
1:20.0	But I do think that we've scrambled our relationships to each other and the world in profound and puzzling ways.
1:29.0	And the post-truthiness of the Trump era drove home how far down the rabbit hole we've gone.
1:36.0	But I sometimes wonder if things are really as weird as they seem.
1:43.0	Every generation thinks their time is uniquely strange or dysfunctional.
1:49.0	So maybe we're just falling into that same trap.
1:52.0	Or maybe just maybe.
1:55.0	We're right.
2:00.0	I'm Sean Ely and this is The Gray Area.
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