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Explain It to Me

Should we give toddlers phones?

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What we know about early childhood and screens, including a surprising argument for introducing tech at a tender age. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Megan Cunnane, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Adriene Lilly and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Photo by CHARLY TRIBALLEAU/AFP via Getty Images.  You can find Dr. Jenny Radesky and her colleagues’ tool kit for parents here. If you have a question, give us a call on 1-800-618-8545 or send us a note here. Listen to Explain It to Me ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

At Liddle, we value the variety of life.

0:02.9

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0:07.8

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0:13.6

Liddle, more to value.

0:15.4

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0:18.1

See little.com.

0:19.9

Liddle.com.

0:21.9

I felt like I needed to keep my kid off of social media and away from phone and away from technology.

0:27.8

Kids create much more what we call solitary space around a tablet.

0:33.0

At some point between the ages of two and three, we decided to give our daughter her first phone.

0:38.8

I'm John Gulen Hill.

0:40.3

This is explain it to me from Vox.

0:42.2

And this is Adam Clark Estes.

0:44.5

So my wife and I had a kid a couple years ago.

0:47.7

And since then, I've not been able to stop thinking about how she's going to grow up in

0:53.0

a world dominated by tech.

0:54.7

Adam's been covering our tech-dominated world for years now.

0:58.1

He's a senior tech correspondent here at Vox and writes a newsletter called User Friendly.

1:02.9

It's generally about how technology works in our lives and works for us and against us sometimes.

1:08.6

But I'm increasingly interested in what tech is doing to the next generation.

1:13.3

Yes, Adam is an expert, but he's a parent first and foremost.

1:17.4

And even he's still trying to figure out how his own toddler should be interacting with screens.

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