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Thank you very much for your support. This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

We've got the votes and screw the rest of you.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments,

you know, with all the bombshells,

didn't catch people's eyes. Hello and welcome to Words Matter. You may be able to tell if you've listened to this show before that I am not Dr.

Kavita Patel, who is off saving lives and doing the great things that Kavita Patel does all the time. I am David Rothkoff and when Kavita Patel does all the time.

I am David Rothkoff.

And when Kavita got called off to do this,

they said, who has time on his hands?

Obviously, it was me.

So I've stepped in here.

But the good news for all of you listen to words matter all the time is that we are joined by Kavita's regular co-host Norm Weinstein.

How are you doing today, Norm?

Well, you know, given the state of the world, David, not great, but I will say that in

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