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🗓️ 30 October 2023
⏱️ 45 minutes
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0:00.0 | The DSR listener survey is now here. Your voice matters, and we want to hear it. |
0:06.0 | So please take a moment to fill out the survey and help us make our podcasts even better. |
0:11.0 | You can find a link to the survey in the show description below. |
0:15.0 | Thank you. |
0:19.0 | This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein. |
0:23.0 | We've got the votes and screwed the rest of you. |
0:27.0 | And Dr. Kavita Patel. |
0:29.0 | These might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells. |
0:32.0 | Did you catch people's eyes? |
0:43.0 | Hello, and welcome to a very special episode of Words Matter. |
0:47.0 | We don't often have guests on our pod, but today we decided actually for a while now |
0:53.0 | we've been trying to get one of our favorite friends on an off the pod, Dr. Ben Miller. |
1:00.0 | And before I do a bit of a longer intro, I'll just say that this is kind of a special podcast |
1:05.0 | that we're doing off-sequence, and therefore we're not going to have a member's section or this section. |
1:10.0 | We're just going to do a kind of a broad and friend conversation that everybody can listen to |
1:17.0 | and we encourage everyone to listen to. |
1:20.0 | So that Norm and I felt it was a pretty important time in our country. |
1:24.0 | I'll be honest, when we wanted to reach out to Dr. Miller, it was really after October 7th. |
1:29.0 | And he was like one of the first people we thought of to just help us think through how to process what's happening. |
1:34.0 | Sadly, the events of the last several weeks, including the most recent mass shooting. |
1:39.0 | And I say most recent because there wasn't another one yesterday. |
1:42.0 | Just had less media attention in another part of the country. |
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