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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Should the U.S. Shut Its Borders? A Live Debate.

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

Society & Culture, News

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

The United States is home to more immigrants than any other country in the world. It is a truism that everyone who lives here at some point came from somewhere else. At the same time, debates about who and how many people to let in have roiled the nation since our very founding. And in the past few years, things have heated up to a new level. That’s no surprise, considering that unlawful attempts to cross the southern border hit a record high of about 2.5 million last year. In the past four years, nearly 5 million attempts to cross the border illegally occurred in Texas alone. We’ve all seen the videos of mothers with babies shimmying under barbed wire, of migrant caravans marching toward Texas, of young men charging Border Patrol agents. It’s why immigration is the top issue for voters in the 2024 election. Indeed, the influx has made even progressive cities, which previously declared themselves immigration sanctuaries, sound the alarm. Last May, former Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot said “we’ve reached a breaking point,” while declaring a state of emergency in her city. In September, New York mayor Eric Adams said the influx of migrants “will destroy New York City.” All of this is the subject of our first live debate of 2024, which took place in Dallas, and that we wanted to share with you on Honestly today. The proposition: Should the United States shut its borders? Arguing in the affirmative are Ann Coulter and Sohrab Ahmari. On the opposing side, arguing that no, the United States should not shut its borders, are Nick Gillespie and Cenk Uygur. They also cover questions like: Is mass immigration is a net gain or a net loss for America? How do we balance our humanitarian impulse with our practical and economic needs? Do migrants suppress wages of the already strained working class? Do they stretch community resources impossibly thin? Does a porous border impact our national security? And what does a sensible border policy really look like? We hope you listen, share, and discuss.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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and the Barclays Women's Super League.

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We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.

0:27.6

Barclays, here for every goal.

0:30.2

I'm Barry Weiss, and this is honestly. I want to tell you two stories. The first one is about a 33 year old named Christian Serrano. He came to the US from Mexico at five years old.

0:43.5

Christian status was always tenuous growing up, and that's because he came here illegally

0:47.4

with his parents.

0:48.9

When the Serrano set foot in this country, they had $100 to their name.

0:53.2

Then in 2012, President Obama passed DACA,

0:56.8

and Christian became one of the more than half a million dreamers

1:00.3

permitted to stay.

1:01.9

A few years ago, he started an award-winning architectural design

1:05.7

firm that generated over five million dollars in revenue last year and which

1:10.2

employs more than ten people across Texas.

1:13.7

So that's the first story.

1:15.6

The second story is about a 24-year-old

1:18.0

named Raphael Romero.

1:20.2

Raphael came to the US at 18 on a work visa. The visa expired, but he stayed in the country illegally,

1:26.7

bouncing around from job to job and living with his family in a mobile home,

1:30.7

some 200 miles from Dallas.

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