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The first show.

Let's get Aria on the phone here.

So I, whenever we have these calls about estrangements or moms or fathers

coming in and coming out of your life, I always feel like I'm digging in or already getting defensive because I have a family like this where you know what my mom came when it was convenient.

You know, my dad came back into my life when it was convenient and it still hurts me even today.

So Aria is struggling with the exact same thing around Christmas.

Hey Aria.

Hi there.

Hi, okay. All right, let's talk about pops.

What's going on?

Oh, well, he wants to spend Christmas with me this year,

and to give some context, he left my mom and me when I was eight and he moved away and I only saw him a couple of times like through like very sporadically and but the thing is my mom she did find love again

she were married and I love my stepdad he's great they're both amazing parents and

but you know great. They're both amazing parents.

And, but you know, I mean, my stepdad is great,

but I always really still wanted to have a relationship with my biological father.

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