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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Should politicians read more science fiction? – with SF author Adrian Tchaikovsky

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In a world where politicians and oligarchs make wild plans, we often hear the cry “They’re reading too much science fiction.” But instead, should our leaders read MORE about alternate futures and the unforeseen consequences of technology? Clarke Award-winning author Adrian Tchaikovsky – of Children of Time and Dogs of War fame – tells Andrew Harrison why science fiction’s job is more complex than just predicting the future… how it can explain egotists like Musk… and the science fiction he thinks Starmer should read. • Adrian Tchaikovsky’s new book Shroud is available for pre-order. Adrian’s choices for Keir Starmer: • After Atlas by Emma Newman • The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi • Ministry For The Future by Kim Stanley Robinson • Support us on Patreon for early episodes and more • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome back to The Bunker explaining news, politics, life the universe and everything, every morning.

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I'm Andrew Harrison.

1:06.5

Back in the days before Twitter became a Nazi-infested toilet, there was a beloved much-shared post from a games designer and onion writer called Alex Blechman.

1:10.2

It said,

1:16.1

sci-fi author. In my book, I invented The Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale.

1:22.4

Tech company replies, at long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel,

1:28.3

Don't Create the Torment Nexus. Tech heads and accelerationsists hate this particular line. They think it's shorthand for all technology is bad. But there is little denying that big tech has a knack

1:33.3

for inventing things, from social networking to artificial intelligence to surveillance and

1:37.7

military technology without caring about the long-term consequences. And for doing it so rapidly

1:43.4

that the law and political leadership

1:45.2

aren't just incapable of keeping up, they don't even understand what's happening. And that's

1:50.1

why Twitter is now a Nazi-infested toilet. So who should our leaders listen to in order to

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