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The Reason Roundtable

Should Libertarians Be Noncombatants in the Pride Wars?

The Reason Roundtable

The Reason Roundtable

News, Politics

4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman attempt to disentangle the...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the reason Roundtable, your very favorite weekly libertarian podcast brought to you by the magazine of free minds and free markets. I am Matt Welch, joined by Nick Gillespie, Peter Suderman, and Katherine Mangu Ward.

0:16.0

June the 5th, be with you, colleagues.

0:19.0

Howdy.

0:21.0

Hey, Matt. Happy Monday.

0:23.0

That's right. So they're calling it, and by day, I mean some columnists at the New Yorker or New York Post, I should say a little different between the two of the revolts of the normies.

0:36.0

It began with consumers of Bud Light abandoning the beer brand in droves to protest a promotional campaign featuring trans micro celebrity Dylan Mulvaney.

0:47.0

It continued with a similar semi-spontaneous boycott of retail giant target for offering tuck-friendly one-piece women swimsuits for penis havers who prefer women swimwear.

0:58.0

And then the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, that last bit was for Katherine, sponsored, then unsponsored, and then re-sponsored.

1:07.0

A night honoring a Catholic satirizing drag nonprofit called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, generating backlashes on basically every side of every issue, including among several Dodgers players.

1:19.0

And all this was for the beginning of Pride Month last Thursday, I believe is when it started.

1:26.0

On Thursday, as I watched on local television here in Southern California, outside a North Hollywood public school, parents, and activists scuffled.

1:37.0

Even in counter-protest at the school holding a Pride Month assembly attended by among others, kindergarteners wrote the aforementioned New York Post columnizer, Stephen F. Hayward, far from merely wanting to be tolerated or left alone.

1:56.0

The new transgender movement insists on transgressing every institutional and social boundary from bathrooms to sports to the elementary school classroom.

2:06.0

Counter's California governor and gay marriage pioneer Gavin Newsom, and I quote, there is a full-throated purge effort going on here by the far right that we have not seen for decades.

2:17.0

They are on a boycott binge and cancel crusade.

2:21.0

Who's this speechwriter? Trying to eliminate the existence of minority communities.

2:28.0

And quote, Catherine libertarians tend to be conscientious objectors in the culture wars more concerned with abuses of government force, such as blocking gay marriage by law or gay adoption, even rather than giving even a little one crap about the brands.

2:46.0

And there are various campaigns and sub-product lines, but there is also a lot of government in some of these stories, particularly when it comes to public schools.

2:56.0

So let's start there.

2:58.0

Should Catherine Mangu Ward, that's a comma and a comma.

3:02.0

Kindergarteners be going to Pride assemblies.

3:04.0

Should they be asked about their pronouns and who should be deciding such things?

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