Should I stay or should I go - the GOP version (with David French)

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🗓️ 29 April 2023

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

“Founding friend” David French returns to tackle the tough question that every Republican of good faith should be asking. They explain why this particular question of “Should I stay or should I go?” is highly relevant for everyone, regardless of political affiliation. The conversation explores the ways that political calculations inescapably are spiritual in nature, and the two have a fun time unpacking this reality via the “pirate ship” metaphor. Listeners will especially be helped by how David and Curtis explain the three main options - Leave, Stand, or Hide - facing anyone who feels caught in a deeply dysfunctional institution.

For those who want to connect with other “Leavers,” share your thoughts with others on the Good Faith “lifeboat” in the comments section for this episode (you only need to become a member by subscribing here - it’s free).

For those who want to make a “Stand” for the soul of the evangelical church, learn more about The After Party project.

For those interested in the mindset of “Hiders, read Anne Applebaum’s excellent analysis of the psychological rationalization practiced within the GOP (The Atlantic).

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0:00.0	Welcome to The Good Faith Podcast. I'm your host, Curtis Chang. The Good Faith Podcast
0:22.2	is a production of redeeming babble, and it's where friends who follow Jesus help each
0:27.9	other make sense of the world. And joining me today is not just any friend. It's founding friend,
0:35.2	David French. Welcome, David. David, as you all know, is co-founder of The Original Good Faith
0:42.8	Podcast and a columnist at the New York Times. Welcome, David. Well, it's great to be back. And I
0:48.4	love that founding friend. That's going to be on your epitaph. I appreciate that. Well, I am always
0:55.6	excited to welcome founding friend, David French back. But I am especially excited today because
1:01.7	for today's topic, I literally cannot think of anybody else I would rather have this discussion
1:07.6	with on this topic. Should I stay or should I go the GOP version? Now, David, I could not get the
1:18.1	rights to the song. Should I stay or should I go the from the clash? Stranger things season two
1:26.0	apparently had snapped up the rights to that song. But I think it's fair to say that we own the concept
1:32.6	at least when it's applied into the Christian world. Because David, remember, we had this conversation
1:37.9	before about should I stay or should I go? And that conversation was really done with people
1:45.2	thinking about should I stay or should I go the the church, especially the evangelical church,
1:51.1	right? And what I want to set up is this version for the GOP for those who are wrestling with
1:57.8	this question as Republicans. And here's why this question came up for me, David. So I was at a
2:04.7	recent gathering. This is the second of two two gatherings now we've had organized by the Johns
2:09.9	Hopkins University and the R Street Institute. The title of this two set convenings was a conservative
2:16.4	agenda to protect democracy, a conservative agenda to protect democracy. The participants were
2:22.7	all what you would call classic conservatives and pro liberal democracy, lowercase L liberal
2:28.8	democracy. Many of them actually were Christians. And quite a few of those were good faithless
2:34.0	senators. So that was really fun. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, they were and all most of them all
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