How to Do Evangelical Deconstruction (with Jon Ward)

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🗓️ 6 May 2023

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Jon Ward, senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, joins Curtis to talk about his process of deconstructing - and reconstructing - his life as a follower of Jesus. Jon draws on his recently released book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation, to dissect the spiritual, social, political, and emotional dimensions of his years growing up as an insider in the evangelical world. Jon also provides a fascinating account of why his life as a journalist has been so crucial to his faith. Curtis offers the Biblical basis for why deconstruction - properly understood - is necessary for every generation of believers.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Good Faith Podcast. Good Faith is a production of redeeming Babel, and
0:21.3	it's where friends who follow Jesus help each other make sense of the world. And my guest
0:28.9	today is someone who has been helping people. Many people make sense of the world professionally.
0:34.4	He's John Ward. He's the senior political correspondent for Yahoo News. And for decades,
0:40.1	John, as a journalist, has been helping people make sense of the White House, Congress,
0:46.5	and other political institutions. And he's done this in his writing, and also in his excellent
0:50.8	podcast, The Long Game. So John, welcome to the Good Faith Podcast. Thank you, Curtis. Appreciate
0:56.9	you having me on, looking forward to talking. Yeah. And in fact, I have appeared on John's podcast
1:02.8	a year and a half ago when he covered my work on Christians in the vaccine. And during that time,
1:09.1	I had a couple of experiences in doing that podcast, John. The first was envy, because I really like
1:15.4	the name of my podcast, Good Faith. But if there is one podcast that I would like, oh, I wish I'd
1:20.9	gotten to that name first, it's The Long Game. I love that name. Tell me more why you titled,
1:27.1	and you beat me to the punch, your podcast, The Long Game. You know, there are other podcasts
1:33.4	called The Long Game. So if you ever want to just try it, I completely obliterate me, just go for it.
1:40.8	I, there are two reasons why I call it that. One is that it's always been my approach to things,
1:48.2	I think, just in general. Two is I started it in 2017 and I was trying to understand the long-term
1:59.0	and structural causes of our political polarization and dysfunction and gridlock.
2:05.8	And I was also trying to understand how the Republican Party nominated a candidate that was the
2:12.0	choice of only a third of its members. So all of that was sort of structural long-term stuff.
2:19.9	And I was also gravitating towards a more solutions-based form of journalism. And I just knew that
2:28.0	whatever the causes were, they didn't get there overnight, and they weren't fixed overnight.
2:33.8	And so, you know, the tortoise and the hare has always been one of my favorite, you know,
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