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Hello, and welcome back to chutzpah. Real Life Lived Better, where each week we apply Jewish tradition, an 18thi bit of Robert's Rules of Order.

To talk about something that is live in our lives, I'm Rabbi Shira Stutman.

And I'm Hannah Rosen, and who's Robert? Does everybody know what Robert's Rules of Order are?

Wait a second.

Do you not know what Robert's Rules of Order are?

I do not.

Am I a fucking idiot?

Who's Robert?

Well, it just, it is an indicator that you have never sat on a board before.

Ah, ah, interesting.

Okay. Have you ever sat on a board before. Ah, ah, ah, interesting. Okay. Have you, have you ever sat on a board?

You know, I have been invited to sit on boards and I sort of mumble and don't make a decision.

I one, I currently am on like a neighborhood board type situation and I regret every second that I spent doing it. So very relevant to our show today.

Anyway, this is what are letters about something that surely a lot of our listeners have been in

this position before. So I'm very glad to be answering this question. It's also something I don't

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