Tiktok is a weapon, and the Chinese Communist Party is able to use this as a tool to manipulate America as a whole.

Biden's is not owned or controlled by the Chinese government. It's a private company.

The dangerous algorithms of the Chinese Communist Party are not good for American.

He has spiked and spied on American citizens.

I don't think the spying is the right way to describe it.

I have seen no evidence that the Chinese government has access to that data.

They have never asked us. We have not provided it. I've asked them.

I find that actually preposterous.

I'm John Favreau. Welcome to offline.

Hey everyone, welcome to offline. Today we're talking about whether the US should ban Tiktok.

You probably heard that last month, Tiktok CEO shows Chu testified before Congress about whether

the Chinese owned app is a threat to national security. There were a few good questions here and there,

but mostly the entire hearing left a lot to be desired.

And I didn't come away with many answers to the big questions I have about Tiktok,

like what kind of data does Tiktok collect?

What are the chances that the Chinese Communist Party is using the app to spy on us or disseminate propaganda?

And what are the consequences of banning an app used by 150 million Americans?

So today, we're going to try to give you the Tiktok debate we wish we heard from Congress.

This episode will be a bit different. First, you'll hear my conversation with V-Sphere,

Tiktok's most popular newscaster who strongly opposes banning the app.

Then, you'll hear Max Fisher's interview with Graham Webster, a Chinese technology expert at

Stanford University who can shed more light on the privacy risks posed by a Chinese owned

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