All right, we're talking with Mike McNett at Double Tap Ambo. Now Mike, you got some new stuff here. What's you been working on? Well, we worked on, first of all, expanding our equalizer lineup. It used to just do the 10 millimeter, and it goes, now we offer it in 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 454 Casool, 500. That's the two projectiles?

Yeah, yeah, let me explain that to you because some people may not be familiar with it yet.

But it's two projectiles with one shot, and the leading projectile is always a hollow point that performs and functions just like a normal hollow point would.

Okay.

And then the trailing projectile is a hard cast lead projectile.

It's made not to deform.

And it gives you the penetration that you need that maybe the expanding hollow point doesn't give.

Right, because there's always a trade-off. The more it expands, the less it penetrates, generally speaking.

That's right, that's right. So you get kind of the best of both worlds in one shot.

So you're getting two holes in your target with every pull of the trigger?

Absolutely. Yeah, the fastest double tap in the world.

So that's where you originally got the name, right?

That's right.

I mean, because we're doing the equalizer loads.

So the question is, how accurate are these?

We're shooting two projectiles out of one case, you know, at a time.

Seven yards, they're right on top of each other touching.

25 yards, you're looking about two inches spread between the two.

Really? Yeah, yeah. The past 25 yards, you probably shouldn't be using it for defense.

Right. But the hollow point always goes to the point of aim. The ball, believe it or not,

shoots a little bit high every single time.

That's the spread, the ball is always off.

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