Good morning listeners. Welcome to Kaffiru cast. It's well it's before 6 a.m. here at Kaffiru International and Frank and I Frank what's up? It's early. It is early. We're going to try and knock out a couple podcasts before everyone comes in and starts bugging us.

The one we wanted to do one of the ones we wanted to do today was on shot placement and an enemy of an animal blood trailing basically you know no one to hold them no one to fold them no one to walk away.

That was the thing right now and it came up it comes up every year you know obviously in hunting camp or on different trailing jobs or whatever when do you push when not to

not to you know how long as an animal going to live off one lung did I get guts on the shot should we let it bed should we try to get another arrow into it.

It's it's very debatable and it's certainly also well some things aren't debatable at all but other things are debatable on you know how long you let it sit a lot of it also has to do with your own personal preference. I'm a little bit more aggressive.

When I say a little more meaning a lot more aggressive and sometimes I'll push the issue but I also you know try to have some common sense and have be very cognizant of my surroundings when I'm doing it but I would I guess what we can start off is shot placement and an enemy Frank are you good with that I hope so.

So you know you basically have starting at the front of the body the frontal shot and quartering to and with a frontal shot which I personally am very comfortable with I've had great luck with a frontal shot.

But there's a there's parameters around that if you can't shoot for shit you probably might not want to take the frontal shot or they're cornering to show you know both of those are the cornering to especially is extremely heated topic but with the frontal shot you have.

You know an oval football like type window in the chest of the animal roughly that you're going to sneak in inside of the more less rib cage and the the shoulders you know simplest explanation and that is you know people argue back and forth as it you know nine inches wide 12 inches wide is it a foot tall 16 inches taller or whatever the case may be you know depending upon the animal but the ideally.

You know for me like on an elk the where the you know you have the darker and lighter for if you look at an elk like it's it's looking straight at you.

When you have that animal coming to you the idea is you're you're basically going to be taking out the top of the heart what's coming out of the top of the heart or the lungs and then obviously going through into whether it be the liver explain stomach you know as the arrow penetrates deeper.

That shot generally if you screw that up ends up with the arrow hitting the shoulder of the animal and falling out like I've seen it happen with a couple different guys if you're left or right meaning just basically a depending but a wound on the elk and they're fine.

You know distinct sound when you hit something in the shoulder yes it is very distinct and very depressing I've been lucky on front of the always every one of them is with the ground now hopefully filled as it mind mendoza I think he took a frontal last year and it did not pan out for him to point I don't know if he wants to take another one.

Yeah he's out of good boy I think on a frontal and and he didn't find it and I don't know the whole you know we'll get fill on here whatever you touch on that but you know if you shoot high that can be really good or really bad and when I say really good I don't mean you want to shoot high you certainly don't want to take a frontal shoot it up in the neck but if you screw up misged yardage or just flat out shit your pants.

You know you can hit like the esophagus basically it's you know you're going to slice words it's breathe hole but you can also hit nothing but neck meat which they're going to bleed some but you know you're probably not going to find them.

You know the parameters of that frontal shot when people ask if you're asking if you think you should take it you probably shouldn't you know meaning like if you're not confident in the fact if you can you know kind of hold your your mud and get that arrow in that you know I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to say whether anyone should do it or not I've had good luck with it hunting solo for elk most of the time they're coming in.

You know looking right at you are looking beyond you trying to find the the cow or the bulls.

So I like it I feel confident in my shooting ability to to to get in there I have enough kinetic energy and momentum really to rip right through the entire body.

Probably just it has to do with being honest with yourself and knowing that you're not going to be able to do it.

So you know just because you would do it doesn't mean you have some some other guy should do it also knowing how confident you are with with your shooting and especially at longer distances you probably would fill more comfort bull taking the shot past 20 yards and other guys would so.

And I've and I promise Brian Broderick I would not if you're listening you little ginger I would not talk about he is actually he makes one of the most important things that I can do is to get in there and I'm going to do it.

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