Heidi Ho, good neighbors. Welcome to Cafferoo Cast. You're listening to the same two people you have been Frank and Aaron. So I'll probably eventually stop saying that or have Frank said this is Frank and Aaron. Hi.

And today we're going to do a couple things. We're going to do the Cafferoo Cast has gone so well.

We can't keep up with the emails, thanking us with, you know, different questions, things like that.

We're going to do a giveaway. And the giveaway is going to be of a prototype pack that I can't talk about because I don't even know if we're going to come out with it, but it's super cool.

Bender brought it down. It is, it is the first. It may not be the final version of it, I guess it is the first and we may or may not come out with it.

But either way to enter the giveaway, all you need to do is leave a review up on iTunes. And all we're going to do is anyone from the beginning of the podcast until two weeks from now.

We'll be in the drawing and it'll just be one prize this prototype pack. And hopefully by that time we'll know if we're actually going to come out with it. And then we can just say, hey, we're not coming out with it, but you got a super cool pack or.

This is what we're coming out with and you'll be the first one you've got the first one ever made. So if you want to enter to win, get on iTunes and review, you know, Kaffiru cast.

And Frank is that all we need to do?

Well, if you give us a bad review, you're not going to win.

Frank has a point Frank, probably maybe joking. I'm not don't leave us a Brad review. No, I'm just kidding.

And then also we're going to do today is Q and A because we cannot keep up with Q and A.

There's just too many questions coming in, which is good. We like that. It's just we're going to need to knock them out a little bit more than maybe we thought.

So today's podcast is going to be another Q and A section. So Frank, why don't you start off?

Okay, so from several people I've gotten questions about budget clothing and budget optics. Not everybody can afford the SICKA first light.

Cryptech stuff. So a lot of people wanted to know if you can afford the top end, what are the other options?

For me, a lot of this stuff probably won't be hunting necessarily hunting brands, but it is sort of technical clothing.

And stuff we've mentioned in the past. So for pants stuff like the Prana Zion's cool renegades, cool renegades, Eddie Bauer, guide pants, stuff like that.

Those are all your standard hiking brand pants, but they all work out pretty well.

I never had tried out the Prana Zion's until you told me about them and they've become one of my favorite pants to use.

Whether we go hiking in the summer on these fishing trips or if we're going even more hunting this year a couple of times.

So those are some of my favorite pants. As far as marino tops, I don't know if you can necessarily find a budget marino top.

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